In the Dark Ages, there was no Camarilla, and no Sabbat. All Malkavians had Auspex, Dementation, and Obfuscate. But in modern day, the Malkavians in the Camarilla have Dominate instead of Dementation, while the Malkavians in the Sabbat still have Dementation. Why? Here are some thoughts...
Two other thoughts:
The Camarilla Malks are the antitribu
The Tremere did it
From: skarsten@sprynet.com
Who says they don't? More importantly, _why did you believe them_?
From: Alik
Well, Dominate has its own uses. For one, you can make someone ACT crazy
without them being mad. More fun that way. See, if you Dementate someone you
can't predict what they'll do. Dominated victims act just like you need them
to. I think it's useful, meself.
From: Jason Corley From Daisy DeadPetals From: Jason Corley From: Amethyst From: "Simula, Crystal L" From: Jason Corley My personal opinion is that it's mostly an Out of Character reason.
V:TM, the basic Camarilla book, came out first, and the Malkavians were
given Dominate. However, when the Player's Guide to the Sabbat came out,
the idea of a discipline that caused madness had been brought up.
Obviously, the Malkavians should have it. It was too late to give it to
the Camarilla Malkavians, but since a lot of the other clans were being
changed, why not give it to the Malkavian antitribu? When Dark Ages came
out, it was realized that Dementation was the most appropriate Malkavian
discipline, so it was given to them. Unfortunately, this causes a number
of In-Character problems in why the Camarilla Malkavians "lost"
Dementation. Hence the above. 7;-)
It was too easy with Dementate. Camarilla Malkavians are
handicapping themselves back to the level of the other clans.
Those Malkavians in the Sabbat are truer to their nature and closer
to Malkav, thus are able to revel in Dementation as opposed to the
Camarilla Malkavians who fight their nature to be restrained and kow tow
to their Camarillla coddlers.
What do you mean they don't have Dementate? Of _course_ they have
Dementate. They just _never use it._
Once upon a time there was but ONE clan of Malkavians and they all had
Dementation. They skirted the issues and poked fun at the Elders and
generally were a rather dangerous bunch. Then one day, the Mean Old
Camarilla came along and enlisted part of the Malkavians to join them. But
in the process of becoming a Camarilla member, they lost their ability to
spread the insanity and got Dominate instead. It was a shitty deal if you
ask me. Now there are TWO clans of Malkavians, but we all know who is
better: The Sabbat!
ok, that's one theory, here's mine, we never did lose the Dementation,
we just tricked everyone else into thinking that we did, so we could hide
it all for ourselves, but then i guess we forgot where we put it. I may
have mine under my bed, but i can't be sure, and it's scary down there. I
may get lost. lost again, london bridge
It is impossible to distinguish between Dementate and Dominate used
for a demented agenda.